Why The Patek Philippe Nautilus Is King: A Collector Weighs In

An introduction by editor-in-chief Elizabeth Doerr: At Quill & Pad we are often contacted by readers. Most are requests for information, but some lead to an interesting exchange of opinions. A recent message from Perry Heim had much to do with his thoughts on one of today’s blue-chip watches: the Patek Philippe Nautilus.

He has organized his thoughts well, which I believe makes for a great conversation starter.

Perry Heim writes:

I’ve had the idea for this piece in mind for quite some time now, but as always when I think of writing something I inevitably ask myself, “What’s the point?”

Well, after reading article after article discussing the virtues of Patek Philippe’s Nautilus – such articles seem to be popping up exponentially – it became clear to me that none state a self-evident truth that appears obvious to me. So I decided to give it a go.

Here is what I find so appealing about the Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 5711.

Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 5711A (photograph courtesy GaryG)

Water resistance and a thin case

What I find most remarkable about the design of the Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 5711 is that it offers 120 meters of water resistance within a case merely 8.3 mm high. You may ask, “What of it?”

In my humble opinion, the two most important factors when evaluating a luxury sports watch are elegance (hence, luxury) and durability (hence, sports). And while the following might err on the side of reductionism, I believe these two can be quantified quite easily using just two parameters: water resistance as a signifier of durability and case thickness as a measure of elegance.

Granted, there is more to luxury than elegance, and there is more to elegance than a thin case (the same going, of course, for sports, durability, and water resistance), so some may disagree with the significance of these two.

I do have more criteria. Being a watch enthusiast for several years, I have developed a specific ideal for my everyday watch. You know the watch I’m talking about: the beach-to-boardroom-go-anywhere do-anything kind of watch.

My ideal everyday watch has to be mechanical (automatic or manual winding, both fine by me) with an exhibition case back, some degree of luminescence, no thicker than 10 mm, and with a water resistance equal to or greater than 10 atm (100 m). As we shall see, finding the conjuncture of these last two is challenging within the confines of a single watch.

Not-so-competitive landscape

I will now demonstrate that this is a feat unmatched by any other watch, save Patek Philippe’s own 5167 Aquanaut, which manages to fit the same movement in an 8.1 mm thick case while retaining said water resistance. Does this mean the 5167 is superlative to the 5711? Of course not; originality, design, and heritage are but a few of the additional factors at play here.

Tom Holland at Wimbledon 2018 Men's finals wearing a Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 5167 (photo courtesy Ralph Lauren)

Tom Holland at the Wimbledon 2018 men’s finals wearing a Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 5167 (photo courtesy Ralph Lauren)

Putting aside these other aspects by which we are to judge a timepiece, and regardless of which one you prefer, Patek Philippe, at least of the holy trinity – an informal WIS grouping comprising Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, and Vacheron Constantin – appears to be alone in achieving this challenging combination of demands.

Patek Philippe Reference 5711-1A Nautilus (photo courtesy Tim Mosso)

What the other two holy trinity brands and a few select others offer

The water resistance of Audemars Piguet’s Royal Oaks are rated to a mere 50 m, with a screw-down crown on Reference 15202 and without one on the three-handed variants.

Many debates have arisen over the interpretation of water-resistance ratings, and while some claim that 50 meters with a screw-down crown is sufficient for swimming, I am reluctant to submerge any luxury watch with less than 100 m water resistance.

In any case, the models with a screw-down crown are about a centimeter thick. And while the 15202 is a delightful 8.1 mm thick, no one would advise you get it too wet.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore in stainless steel, a limited edition of 48 pieces

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore in stainless steel in a limited edition of 48 pieces

And the Royal Oak Offshores? Sure, they’re water resistant. But whether Chronograph or Diver, they have all the thinness and finesse of a Big Mac.

Vacheron Constantin’s second-generation time-only Overseas is a fine candidate; with a depth rating of 150 meters and a reasonable case thickness of only 9.7 mm, my main gripe was its lack of an exhibition case back (I also felt the hands were a tad too short).

Vacheron Constantin Overseas 2016 with Blue Dial

Third-generation Vacheron Constantin Overseas of 2016

Vacheron Constantin added just such a case back to the third generation of the Overseas in 2016 – all the better to show off the new in-house 5100 caliber – but at the expense of adding nearly 2 mm to the case height. At more than 11 mm thick, it doesn’t appear at all sleek.

What about the white gold ultra-thin Overseas Perpetual Calendar? Oh, if ever there was a delicious watch to behold. Sadly, it achieves its clean design by doing away with a date window and second hand, and its 7.5 mm thin profile is accomplished at the expense of water resistance, down from 150 to 50 meters.

Odysseus in steel from A. Lange & Söhne

The A. Lange & Söhne Odysseus, Breguet Marine, and Glashütte Original Seventies all exceed 11 mm in height as is prone to happen with a big date complication (interesting enough, the new Marine did away with the big date but didn’t get any thinner).

Jaeger-LeCoultre’s sports watches tend to have a solid case back and are usually far from thin, as is the case, of course, with Rolex (surely to be expected with a base movement 6 mm in height). Omega’s current offerings are housed in cases with sapphire crystal case backs, but I find the Co-Axial escapements tend to render the timepieces with the dimensions of a small hockey puck.

Other contenders

A couple of unusual suspects come to mind. Piaget’s Polo S and Girard-Perregaux’s Laureato are both rated to 100 meters and come in at just under a centimeter in height. Prima facia this sounds good but, alas, these fine timepieces only deliver further proof that numbers aren’t everything. In addition to being among those who find the designs of these pieces derivative, they just don’t feel all that thin to me.

Piaget Polo S time only time only collection

Piaget Polo S

Other noteworthy models, albeit discontinued, are Omega’s Constellation Double Eagle with the 2500 caliber. It’s still (or, rather, already) Co-Axial, you get a sapphire crystal case back and 100 m of water resistance, but unlike Omega’s current offerings it comes in under 10 mm in height.

Another is Blancpain’s Leman Aqualung (the limited edition of 1999 pieces, not the one with the grand date, mind you), quite fetching in my opinion.

Girard-Perregaux Laureato

Lastly, a watch I personally own and highly recommend if you can find one: the Nomos Tangente Sport Datum 531. Similar to the recent Hodinkee limited edition, the 531 is powered by Nomos Glashütte’s Beta caliber so it does have a date window in addition to an exhibition case back. It’s rated to 100 m without a screw-down crown (good thing, too, as it’s a manual wind) and is roughly 8 mm thick (roughly because Nomos claims a thickness of 7.9 mm with the exhibition case back, whereas my own Vernier caliper yielded a result closer to 8.1 mm.)

Nomos Glashütte Tangente Sport Hodinkee Edition

While it might have beat the Patek Philippe Nautilus insofar as the numbers go, the Nomos Glashütte Sport Datum doesn’t seem as thin due to its case being smaller (36.5 mm in diameter) and not as elaborate. Nonetheless, it was my choice for a luxury sports watch, though, arguably, without the luxury price tag.

Bulgari Octo Finissimo Automatic in steel on the wrist

Finally, we come to what just might be my watch of the year: Bulgari’s Octo Finissimo 100 m satin-polished stainless steel. As the name suggests, this Bulgari is sufficiently water resistant and only 5.25 mm thick. More than thin enough in my book.

So, is it a Nautilus killer? Not really.

Patek Philippe Nautilus or Bulgari Octo Finissimo?

Personally, and in contrast to the Purists/Hodinkee point of view, I feel that a date window is rather apropos on a luxury sports watch (it’s a useful function on a daily wearer) as is a second hand – preferably a central second hand, which is easier to notice.

But most of all, I believe a sports watch ought to be lumed. The Bulgari Octo Finissimo isn’t. No doubt this is in order to preserve the integrity of the design, and I respect that. All of which is to say that, while I likes me some lume, I find the Octo Finissimo compelling enough that it just might be my next purchase.

The presence of lume, a date window, central seconds, and an additional 20 m of water resistance means that I still prefer a Nautilus. But supply, demand, and the market mean that a Patek Philippe Reference 5711 with my name on it will take quite some time.

Giant Patek Philippe Nautilus drawing by Simon Beck on Brean beach in Somerset, England

Nonetheless, I hope that in these few words I have, to some degree, illuminated a few aspects as to why I think Patek Philippe’s Nautilus Reference 5711 is so successful and desirable.

For more information on this model, please visit www.patek.com/en/collection/nautilus/5711-1A-010.

Quick Facts Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 5711
Case: 40 x 8.3 mm, stainless steel or pink gold
Movement: automatic Caliber 26-330 S C; 28,800 vph/4 Hz, 35-45-hour power reserve, Spiromax balance spring, Gyromax balance, Patek Philippe Seal
Functions: hours, minutes, seconds; date
Price: CHF 27,000

Quick Facts Bulgari Octo Finissimo Automatic
Case: 40 x 5.25 mm, stainless steel or pink gold
Movement: ultra-slim automatic Caliber BVL 138, 2.23 mm height, 36.6 mm diameter, 21,600 vph/3 Hz frequency, 60-hour power reserve
Functions: hours, minutes, seconds
Price: $13,900/€12,100 on a bracelet, $12,800 on a strap

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19 replies
  1. Joonas
    Joonas says:

    Brilliant post, really enjoyed the analytical take on the topic!

    While it is hard to contradict with the conclusion, the article also confirms that there are still brands and models which swim under the radar: Zenith Defy.
    It ticks all the boxes: originality, <10mm, 10atm, style, and to top it off: availability & price.

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    • Perry Heim
      Perry Heim says:

      Thanks Joonas.
      Indeed I failed to mention the Zenith Defy.
      I’ll mention that In my experience it is similar to the Polo S and the Laureato, both in specifications and in being underwhelming.
      -Perry

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  2. Muhannad
    Muhannad says:

    Some interesting points Perry, and a thoughtful comparison to other watches. I just wanted to point out a small typo regarding the crowns of the Royal Oaks – it’s the Jumbo that doesn’t have the screw down crown, whereas the 3 handers have it

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  3. DaiKel11
    DaiKel11 says:

    I agreed with most of the points the author shared… but as an owner of multiple nautilus and aquanaut pieces, I’d like to offer my two cents as well.

    1) given the price they charge which isn’t a small amount, I am not happy that there is no micro adjustment on the bracelet to give better breathing room for wrist during summer. This isn’t a huge demand? With the links being relatively thin and clasp needs to look elegant this is probably not easy to achieve. I get it… but if you take on the helm of probably being the top 3-5 watch brands this should be the challenge to embrace. This has never happened which is a damn shame.

    2) Give and take, as much as 120m WR is satisfying, the slimness of this watch also makes it less robust. Of course nobody will swing their wrists around like a maniac when wearing this piece but compare to Laureato, Polo, Overseas and to certain degree even Royal Oak, Nautilus does feel very flimsy on wrist. Yes there’s this luxury aura that it carries but this piece simply is one that feels like it begs to be babied, which lowers a lot of desire on wearing the piece.

    Pardon my honest or maybe a bit harsh comments on the 5711. This piece is my son’s birth year watch so I do have high expectation on it. : )

    Interestingly, when I acquired my 5711 back in 2017 I was still offer 10% off the retail price. How time has changed haha!

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    • Ray
      Ray says:

      That was my thought ,you used to beg people to buy the things, they are big, goofy. How just hype on tv and the watch blogs can change the wants of consumers. Lemmings that we are ! Happy New Year my fellow lemmings ! lol

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  4. Gav
    Gav says:

    Its thinness in comparison to the standard Royal Oak has always impressed me, but I just don’t like the design as much. For me the main attraction to get one would purely be in the getting of it.

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  5. ettie
    ettie says:

    Wow. What a great piece of writing! As they say – a rare find. Have long not seen anything close to that piece in fine observations, delicate humour, and so much interesting data. Written with true passion to history and interesting personal interpretations. Would love to read more of this unique author. Dear Perry Hem, do you have a blog or podcasts about any other subjects?

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  6. Ray
    Ray says:

    Three things make this work as a piece that is that make it the worlds most over priced toy,it’s a sport watch(sorta),it says PP on the dial, and they are hard to find. The latter point also had the effect of making it a flippers watch,so it shot up in price, making it a forth thing,an investment piece, how long that stays true, is any ones guess.

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  7. Gberry
    Gberry says:

    Still think the Nautilus is just plain ugly and if it were let’s say designed by Genta for, humor me.. IWC instead of the Ingenieur.. it would’ve been as equally anonymous as the Inge. It’s really the PP name that has made the difference..

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  8. HJ
    HJ says:

    The Nautilus is the king because of the lack of hacking seconds up until a few years ago, cheap pins instead of screws in the links, a mismatched date wheel that looks like it belongs on a $1500 watch, and the legacy of Genta who is grossly overrated. That and the “Patek” name on the dial. It’s ugly and heavily flawed. Sheep.

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    • Ray
      Ray says:

      I’ll say if they won’t ..Nice catch ! lol It just how little people care to even check something simple anymore. The whole country is going sloppy ! We don’t even vet the sanity of our Presidents anymore. (no offence to Biden talking about the orange man).

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      • Princeton
        Princeton says:

        Biden wears a timex to meetings. I meet him twice in Princeton, and he showed up one hour late each time. He blamed the watch.

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  9. Olaf Kim
    Olaf Kim says:

    Nice article! Another alternative is the IWC Ingenieur around 2015. Designed by Genta with integrated bracelet, WR 120 m, thickness 1 cm, date at 3 o’clock, ETA based movement. Black or white dial, also blue dial Gas limited edition (Laureus). But closed case back gfg. GG g gf hug g

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