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How I Bid: One Collector’s Approach To Buying At Watch Auctions

by GaryG

The autumn auction season is upon us!

From Hong Kong to New York to Geneva, eager bidders will soon have the opportunity to bid to their hearts’ content on a large variety of contemporary and vintage timepieces; sellers will collect cash they can put into other watches or invest elsewhere; and auction houses will generate tidy commissions to finance their operations and, I suspect, pay for a few nice holiday gifts.

Homework assignment: catalogues from upcoming auctions

Homework assignment: catalogues from upcoming auctions

And there’s no shortage of tasty pieces on offer at all price points at the big auction houses during this 2017 season, from Paul Newman’s Paul Newman Rolex Daytona at Phillips to the wealth of unique Only Watches at Christie’s to a variety of MB&F specialties at Sotheby’s.

Like many collectors, I’ve bought and sold a number of watches at auction over the years. Since I’m a systematic type of guy, I’ve taken the time to analyze my philosophy of auction bidding and capture some of the tactics I use to achieve my goals; and I hope that at least some of my realizations will be useful to you in your own bidding.

Establishing your bidding philosophy

As with a great many human pursuits, the appropriate methods for bidding at auction depend on what one is trying to achieve. It stands to reason the approach taken by a win-at-any-cost buyer with deep pockets who calls out “One hundred!” when the next bidding level is fifty is, and should be, different from that of the bargain seeker who keeps as low a profile as possible and enters the fray with a single bid just as the initial wave of enthusiasm in the room has ebbed.

Pre-philosophy days: Audemars Piguet pocket watch, an early auction purchase by the author

Pre-philosophy days: Audemars Piguet pocket watch, an early auction purchase by the author

While my early auction buying may have been somewhat indiscriminate, my underlying philosophy of auction buying these days looks something like this:

  • I come into an auction setting with very specific ideas of the few pieces that I am interested in buying; as a rule, these are watches that I’ve been on the hunt for over some period of time rather than watches that “everyone” wants.
  • I’m willing to pay the premium needed for a watch in exceptional condition and generally pass on pieces that are “honest daily wearers.”
  • I would rather miss out on the occasional opportunity than overpay for a given watch.
Missed opportunity? Record-setting Jaeger-LeCoultre Geophysic sold at Phillips, Geneva in 2017

Missed opportunity? Record-setting Jaeger-LeCoultre Geophysic sold at Phillips, Geneva in 2017

While some of my resulting tactics are specific to this philosophy, others probably apply just as well to the buyer looking for a few “fun” pieces or the hyper-focused bidder aiming for a single grail. That said, if let-҆er-rip spontaneity is your underlying model, you and I are probably going to use quite different methods!

Prior planning prevents poor progress

It’s always a happy day when an auction catalogue arrives in the mail, as each assortment inevitably contains one or more pieces I’d love to own. At the same time, as I’m now in the “selling to buy” mode (see Selling Watches To Buy Watches: One Collector’s Story) each auction requires some soul searching: are any of those shiny watches so tempting that I’d be willing to part with something already in my collection to own it?

With that tough screen in mind, I’ll now often read through entire catalogues and dog-ear a few pages but ultimately decide that none of the watches are for me. From time to time, however, an excellent example of a longtime object of desire simply jumps off the page at me, at which point there are only two questions: is it attainable and if so how important is the watch to me?

Object of desire: Breguet Type XX ‘Big Eye’

Object of desire: Breguet Type XX ‘Big Eye’

Even at this stage I make a point of reviewing the online condition reports and scanning the photos of each potential target closely: having bought a watch at auction years ago that required substantial servicing, I hope I’ve learned my lesson.

Seeing is believing

If you can, see and handle the watches in person at the previews! The first reason to do this is that as a registered bidder you will have the opportunity to touch, wear, and photograph a rich assortment of notable watches that puts the new releases at a given year’s SIHH or Baselworld to shame.

When I mark up my catalogue, in addition to the pages marked “B” for buy and “C” for consider, there are always a bunch labeled “L” for look.

Lookee here: steel Patek Philippe Reference 1518 on the wrist at Phillips’ Geneva Auction, November 2016

Lookee here: steel Patek Philippe Reference 1518 on the wrist at Phillips’ Geneva Auction, November 2016

For the “buy” and “consider” pieces, though, careful inspection (including opening the back of solid-cased watches) and detailed discussions with the helpful members of the auction house team give you an advantage in understanding just how good a particular example is.

There’s also a bit of a hazard, of course: the risk of falling in love with a watch on the “look” list!

I had this experience with my Patek Philippe Reference 1526 perpetual calendar: once I had it in hand, on the wrist, and under the loupe I took a crash course with my friends at Phillips and Patek Philippe and ended up buying a watch that is now one of my favorites (see A Contemporary Watch Collector Goes Vintage).

Loved it, researched it, bought it: the author’s Patek Philippe Reference 1526 in pink gold

Loved it, researched it, bought it: the author’s Patek Philippe Reference 1526 in pink gold

I wouldn’t go so far as to say that I would not bid on a piece I haven’t seen in person, but I’m a big believer in the value of in-person inspection and questioning.

Work your network 

If you are interested in a particular watch, do your best to make it known to a member of the auction house staff. Contrary to what I believed when I first started bidding at auction, there are generally only a small number of bidders for a given watch, and as part of the detailed preparation that the auctioneer goes through he or she will want to understand who the likely bidders are.

To the extent that you are in the room and the auctioneer is aware of your interest, you might just edge out another bidder whose hand goes up as your does but just out of the auctioneer’s peripheral vision. At least in Switzerland, there are hussiers present to ensure fair dealing, but in my experience ties go to the prepared.

And don’t be bashful: clear signals matter!

Fair warning, fair dealing: auctioning the Patek Philippe Only Watch, 2015 with Aurel Bacs at the rostrum and the hussier seated to his left

Fair warning, fair dealing: auctioning the Patek Philippe Only Watch, 2015 with Aurel Bacs at the rostrum and the hussier seated to his left

If you can’t be in the room, arrange to bid by phone; your auction house representative on the other end of the line can help you read the mood in the room, answer questions, and even buy a bit of time with the auctioneer that the “bid now” button on the internet app doesn’t provide.

Be aware, though: what can seem a glacial pace of bidding in the room seems mysteriously to shift into hyper drive when you are on the far end of a phone line, so having a clear bidding strategy is critically important.

Time to bid!

Given my bidding philosophy and somewhat poor impulse control, I try to go into every bidding session with a clear game plan for each watch I’ll bid on that includes:

  • The maximum price I am willing to bid, expressed in dollars including buyer’s premium
  • The bid increment in local currency that corresponds to that price
  • A list of the few bid increments leading up to my top bid level

You can see a mocked-up example of this approach in the photo below for a watch that I don’t plan to bid on at Sotheby’s upcoming Hong Kong auction. In this hypothetical example, I’d be pleased to go home with the watch at an all-in auction price of $64,000, which corresponds to a bid of HKD 400,000 – within the estimated price range for the watch.

Homework, continued: bidding tactics in black and white

Homework, continued: bidding tactics in black and white

I’ve also studied the bid increments leading up to my top number and know that those are 300,000, 320,000, 350,000, and 380,000 HKD.

If I’m in the room or on the phone and I have the opportunity, I try to get into the cadence at an even number of bids below what I am willing to pay, or if the bidding that evening has been a bit soft overall perhaps one slot lower.

In our hypothetical example, if the prior lots have sold low in their estimate ranges, I might try to raise my hand at 320,000; if another bidder came back at 350,000, I would then be on track to bid 380,000.

That would leave me vulnerable to someone else raising the ante to my top number of 400,000, but then again there are a lot of Reference 5070Rs out there so the loss wouldn’t be so hard to take.

In this made-up case, 320,000 could also be a good number as the reserve is sometimes one bid below the low estimate. At last year’s Phillips auction in Geneva, bids “one below” were good enough to win me both the Patek Philippe Reference 1526 and the A. Lange & Söhne Pour le Mérite Tourbillon.

Bought below estimate: the author’s A. Lange & Söhne Pour le Mérite Tourbillon

Bought below estimate: the author’s A. Lange & Söhne Pour le Mérite Tourbillon

Of course, this strategy doesn’t always work. Auctioneers have latitude to take bids that are not on the published increments, and there have been many occasions on which I’ve been wrong-footed and seen someone else go home with “my” watch, having been at the correct spot in the cadence to bid my targeted top price.

If you must absentee bid

If you can’t be there in person and can’t bid on the phone or Internet, there’s always the absentee bid process that allows you to place a maximum bid amount in advance.

One advantage of the absentee process is that it eliminates the possibility that you’ll be caught up in the excitement of the moment, but at the same time you’ll lose any chance of influencing the flow of bids and you’ll give up the chance to make “one more” bid at the margin.

I try to use absentee bidding only on those rare occasions when there’s a “nice-to-have” watch being auctioned in the middle of the night my time. My guiding rule in these instances is to think very hard about the following question: what’s the price at which, if I won, I’d be delighted to wake up to the news?

Parting shot: the author’s A. Lange & Söhne Double Split, bought at auction in 2012

Parting shot: the author’s A. Lange & Söhne Double Split, bought at auction in 2012

A few closing thoughts

Before you go, just few more things:

  • While I have lots of friends at the auction houses and believe each and every one to be of high integrity, remember that the auction house makes money by facilitating transactions. It’s your job to ensure that the piece you buy is in the condition you want it to be and to dig hard to learn all that you can about any concerns.
  • Bid with conviction. Once you have decided in advance on your willingness to pay, don’t get cold feet at a lower price point during the action as you will likely regret it later.
  • Auctions should be fun! It’s fun for me to take the highly structured approach I’ve described, but your preferences may vary; and I’ve missed out on a piece or two over the years using my relatively conservative approach that I’m still kicking myself about.
  • Good luck and happy hunting! As always, please feel free to share your own experiences and bidding strategies in the comments section below.
7 replies
  1. Cornel Catana
    Cornel Catana says:
    September 30, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Did you bid to Onlywatch auction? To pay your money for such cause its a beautiful feeling too. I plan to bid for this year auction but I dont know if I have any chance aince I cant be present their.

    Thank you

    Reply
    • GaryG
      GaryG says:
      September 30, 2017 at 8:52 pm

      Thanks for your comments and question, Cornel! I did attend the 2015 OnlyWatch auction and placed some bids but did not win any pieces. I do plan to attend again in November of this year and I’m very excited about it.

      If you contact Christie’s they should be able to arrange for you to bid over the telephone or online. Good luck and happy bidding!

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      • David Walter
        David Walter says:
        October 2, 2017 at 5:27 pm

        I agree this an execellent method. This is exactly the method I used for 30 years, check the items carefully, set a maximum price and stick to it. Often times there can be someone who “wants” that piece and will simply pay whatever it takes.

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        • GaryG
          GaryG says:
          October 3, 2017 at 10:40 pm

          Thanks for commenting, David! An honor to have you join the conversation.

          Case in point from my experience for the phenomenon you mention: I was a bidder on an A. Lange & Söhne Pour le Mérite and had the opportunity to place “one more bid” at a price above my max, and decided to pass. This turned out to be a good thing, as within the year I was able to buy another piece for a considerably lower price! With the exception of absolutely unique pieces it seems wise to remember that if one doesn’t win today, there will be other chances.

          All the best, Gary

          Reply
  2. Paul
    Paul says:
    October 1, 2017 at 2:56 am

    Hi Gary, not sure if this has happened to you before. But have you bidded on a watch that seemed to attract no bidding interest except yours alone? And did that sour your interest in the watch? Perhaps regret that it wasn’t as sought after as you’d have imagined, or the possiblility of it being less than 100% original and you might have overlooked that.

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    • GaryG
      GaryG says:
      October 3, 2017 at 10:43 pm

      What an interesting question, Paul! For me, once I decide I want a given watch and am confident in its condition, the fewer the bidders the better. I don’t think I’ve ever been the only bidder on a piece, but when I’ve been one of a small number and done well relative to my willingness to pay I feel good, not bad.

      With vintage, of course, originality is a big issue and there I depend on the experts to advise me — so far, so good on that front!

      Best, Gary

      Reply

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